Tuesday, December 2, 2008

if i don't see you, do i miss seeing myself?

27 comments:

Sara said...

Would you see yourself of the same way you would see me?
How long are you able to see yourself?

anne artist said...

i like these questions.

i wonder how long we do look at ourselves. rather than looking outward in order to define our inner selves. if i don't see you, is it because i am only seeing myself or not seeing at all? if i can step away from my own self and really look at you, does that enable me to look at myself with clearer eyes rather than ones clouded by the ego?

Sara said...

Oh! The ego, ego. What a beautiful and dangerous.......friend, perhaps?

To see at one self could just blind us of seing something else, what a sad true, what a irritant definition of ego.

What would happen if one could really step away from one self?

anne artist said...

if i could step away from being me, would i become Me? if i did not look at myself close-up, would i be able to see the horizon of self and that which lies in between.....?

for some reason, i seem to speak more abstractly with you, sara. interesting......

Sara said...

Would we ruin the great idea of someday could step away from ourselves as we are used to ruin every beatiful image in world?.......humans.

I'm not sure if we could keep the capacity of being ourselves if we, precisely, step away from ourselves.

I take a seat. I look trhough my window right up to sky. I sigh, I feel sorry and I feel sad. I realize you are far away and then I think...if I could step away from myself, could I visit you to share a cup of coffe in the form I get?
Form....mmm yeah, what form would I get if I leave myself?
Or we could drink soda while we discuss what could be the reason we both think the same on this matter that you and me talk more abstractly with each other.

anne artist said...

it seems that in this form of communication we do step away from ourselves, to some degree. which enables us to see aspect of the other clearer and yet....the day to day stuff not at all.

if i step away from myself, am i stepping away from the context of me? and if we met for coffee, would the conversation change?

once, i stayed for a while in canada. i packed my stuff up here and put it in storage. my mail (other than that of friends writing me in canada) went to a friend's house. and then, i realized that in order to feel some sense of normal in my life, i needed a real address, even if i were away from it. i like to color outside the lines, but without the lines, it is more difficult...........

Sara said...

The margens that contains our inner feelings are the margens we can't remake for sure.
I think my margens concept would fit in your lines as a term and due to is so hard to unlearn to learn again, you can't leave your lines as, for me, no one can leave their margens but they can make them bigger when they consider it is nessesary.

anne artist said...

that is a huge statement.....it really is hard to unlearn so that we can learn again....at least, in my experience.

Sara said...

I tried once, I really did; but everything just got......not really good.

anne artist said...

perhaps unlearning is just letting letting go of information that no longer has a meaning or context.

Sara said...

Or an exit for something we do not need anymore but that once served us well.

anne artist said...

unlearning as an exit....cool.

what is the front door?

Sara said...

The one we entered into trouble for, perhaps?
So that unlearning could be the exit.

anne artist said...

very cool.......

Sara said...

I just got the picture of someone using the exit and that this one takes this person to the begining of where he started. That would be so funny but then I wonder, what would happen if it were this way? Would it be for punishing us and so that would be the reason unlearning is so dificult? So we would have to cross through this exit over and over again until we unlearn so that we could get finaly to the "learn again"?

What the hell did I just say?
It made me laugh.

anne artist said...

i do believe you just found yourself going through the exit and becoming face to face with the beginning....but without an exit how would we get to the beginning? is not each moment a beginning?

no time to pause to wonder what we said....it is reconfiguring itself as we speak......

Sara said...

Not if that moment is the continuation of some other moment which could be or not the beginning, if it had not started yet.

That last sound like "Conservation of the matter" or that's just what I thought first or I realized with.

anne artist said...

yes. maybe it is all of those.

Sara said...

Yes...nowdays everything can be several things at the same time.

anne artist said...

when is everything nothing?

Sara said...

Never, because even nothing is something...I think.

anne artist said...

interesting....nothing is something but something is not nothing. everything is something and something is everything.

Sara said...

I saw that as a dance....I liked it.

Sara said...

How's your computer, by the way?

anne artist said...

a dance. i like it. life is a dance, after all.

as for the computer situation, i was told i needed a new computer and so am adjusting to one that is totally different. for me, it has not been a dance.....it would be helpful to remember that. then, i found out my former computer could be repaired so in a few days, it will be back here

the big news is that i ordered one of those pens and tablets that will allow me to draw right into the computer. i might even add color. so, maybe by the time it comes, i will be more comfortable with this one. thanks for asking.

Sara said...

Just interested.
Your welcome.

anne artist said...

thanks again for being interested.